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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 06-05-2017, 06:35 PM Thread Starter
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My narrow escape last Saturday

I was driving the family in the Sienna last Saturday.
We were in the middle of a multi vehicle pile up on I-35​/I-80 in Des Moines.
Sudden back up of cars in front as they began to rear end each other. I hit the brakes and pull to the inside shoulder to miss the cars in front.
Pulled over just as the car that was behind me slams into the one that was in front of me. I could see that through the passenger side window.
Of course, more hit him.
Total of 8 vehicles.
Our van? Not a scratch....
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There was a little girl that was hurt. Internal injuries.
Older gentleman that had compound fracture in his hand.

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Yes. . too many people following too closely for the speed. I guess people have forgotten all about maintaining a "Safe Following Distance".

Glad to hear you and yours are safe.

Too many have forgotten about maintaining a safe following distance. Don't they teach that in driving school any more?

How do you do that? You pick a spot ahead on the highway . .. a road marker, sign, etc. And when the vehicle in front you reaches that marker. . . you count, One thousand 1, One thousand 2, One thousand 3. . . and add One Thousand 4 for good measure and that's when your vehicle should reach that mark. If you get to that mark sooner. . . it is not a safe following distance.

Yes, I know, people then like to use * YOUR * safe following distance for passing in front of you, swerving in and out of lanes, etc.

So . . . what to do. What I do is. . . Fall Back. Let the clowns bunch up on each other and make a big block of vehicles all on top of one another. What with speeds now 70 to 75 MPH on the interstates. .. I cruise along at 2, 3 or even 4 miles UNDER the limit and let the fools pass me. I am always "Driving Ahead" at least 1/4 to 1/2 mile looking ahead at what traffic looks like, what is going on, etc.

I try and avoid at all costs, getting caught in a big block of traffic with idiots all on top of one another. I try and stay in the center or far right lane. Let the fools have their passing lane. I see so many driving like they think they are NASCAR racing.

No excuse for driving like that. Not with texting and other distractions going on with drivers today.

Well .. . my 2 cents anyway

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hi ,

+1 JayT2014 !!

glad you and yours are OK ! Jeff !!( New to the Nox )

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This is a very interesting read.
There is an attached PDF at the bottom of the article.

https://www.thenewspaper.com/news/38/3801.asp

Yes, the 3 second rule gave me enough time to realize what was happening, slow down enough to pull to the side before I hit the car in front and before the car behind me hit me.

Of course, the 3 second rule doesn't take into account a sudden, immediate stop of the vehicle in front as they slam into the back of another car. It assumes ​the car in front is braking normally, albeit quickly, and thus is slowing down.... not halting.

Obviously, increase the distance for heavier vehicles and bad weather.

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I am always "Driving Ahead" at least 1/4 to 1/2 mile looking ahead at what traffic looks like, what is going on, etc.
Kinda reminds me of the quote from hockey great, Wayne Gretzky.

" Skate to where the puck is going, not where it has been."

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the average stopping distance at 70 mph is just over 300 ft. , which is the length of a football field.

Stopping distance includes the reaction time and the braking time converted to distance.

How often do you see a football field between cars at 70 mph ?
I tell kids at work this and they tell me I am crazy. I always tell them do the math.
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I always imagine this scenario.

Where I keep my space- and I would brake in time- and everyone else rear ends each other because theyre following too close..............

glad to hear it worked- and you came out untouched.

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This is a very interesting read.
There is an attached PDF at the bottom of the article.

https://www.thenewspaper.com/news/38/3801.asp

Yes, the 3 second rule gave me enough time to realize what was happening, slow down enough to pull to the side before I hit the car in front and before the car behind me hit me.

Of course, the 3 second rule doesn't take into account a sudden, immediate stop of the vehicle in front as they slam into the back of another car. It assumes ​the car in front is braking normally, albeit quickly, and thus is slowing down.... not halting.

Obviously, increase the distance for heavier vehicles and bad weather.
Glad to hear you use the 3 second rule. . . But did you notice I added. . " One Thousand 4 - - for added measure " ?

I've found that since I 've been driving that way I pretty much automatically maintain the safe following distance. My eye is trained to see when the gap is narrowing and I need to adjust. Also, if wet or snowy/ice conditions are present the "rule" should easily go to +5 seconds or more.


Also, as I said. . . I abhor getting caught up or boxed into big blocks of traffic and cars trying to run over each other. I will slow down, move over and let the traffic block move way ahead of me if possible.

I find that people are so much less patient and in a hurry today than even 20 or 25 years ago. Maybe the "instant" habits of tweeting, texting, and other instant services bleeding into other expectations and habits? It seems that may be. I saw a documentary a few weeks back on how instant cyber communications have changed people's expectations and habits in other areas of life. Mostly. .. not good.

Oh. . . and lest some may judge and write me off as just an old foggey wuss driver, I have taken a few driving courses in years past on how to race competitively and also ride my Harley in a safe manner. But I can and will drive aggressively if I need to in order to get out of a bad situation. I just don't get why people make the choice to drive foolishly just to knock off (maybe) 20 minutes in a 250 mile (or less) highway drive.

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Oh. . . and lest some may judge
I guess I got the distinct feeling that was what you just did towards me in your first post.

I just wanted to let you and others here know about a rather big multi car accident that my family and I barely escaped​...by the Grace of God.
First reply is a lecture on safe driving and not following too close.
Forgive me if I took that wrong.

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