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Just got the Chev notice about excessive oil consumption. I have a 2012 equinox.

Just got the Chev notice about excessive oil consumption. I have a 2012 equinox with a 4 cylinder engine with 45,000 miles. For those of you that have had the oil consumption increase, what mileage did you notice the problem? Does anyone know what is causing the high consumption and can we all expect it at a certain mileage interval? Will all of the engines eventually have the problem or only some of them?
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Re: Just got the Chev notice about excessive oil consumption. I have a 2012 equinox.

Lot's of info here on this. Use the Searh Box - -- - upper right and inter in Oil Consumption . . . Timing Chain. . .. Cam Shaft Actuator . . . should find a TSB covering this as well Here. . .. I will attach it.
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Re: Just got the Chev notice about excessive oil consumption. I have a 2012 equinox.

On mine it started right at around 50k. I would watch your oil level at the dipstick closely and bring it in immediately if you notice it consuming oil.

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Re: Just got the Chev notice about excessive oil consumption. I have a 2012 equinox.

mine is starting to use a little oil........about a quart in 5000 miles.....

but it has 242,000 miles on it.
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mine is starting to use a little oil........about a quart in 5000 miles.....

but it has 242,000 miles on it.
Wow - sounds like you got a lemon. You better contact GM and tell them that you' ll never buy another GM product unless they replace your engine. LOL





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Wow - sounds like you got a lemon. You better contact GM and tell them that you' ll never buy another GM product unless they replace your engine. LOL




How is your 2.4L doing Rit? How many miles and any oil use between changes. . . just curious.

You seem to be doing well with yours also.

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How is your 2.4L doing Rit? How many miles and any oil use between changes. . . just curious.

You seem to be doing well with yours also.
I have about 57K miles, and no measurable oil consumption. My usage pattern is almost all highway. My average speed since day 1 is about 47 MPH. Don't know is that is the secret.

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I have about 57K miles, and no measurable oil consumption. My usage pattern is almost all highway. My average speed since day 1 is about 47 MPH. Don't know is that is the secret.
I'm thinking a lot of it (maybe not all) has to do with how attentive an owner is with reasonable OCI of say, 5K to 6K miles plus keeping on top of other maintenance like TB cleaning, air filters, etc. That and driving style, as well as ,yes, highway miles are generally easier on an engine.

I suspect some claim they do "regular oil changes EVERY 4k or 5K miles" and "baby" their vehicle. And then there are those who buy a used Equinox or Terrain and claim it was "well maintained" previously.

That said, what I do believe is that the new DI engines and drive trains are not as forgiving with lackadaisical maintenance as older engines were. I cringe in the past when daughters have told me they "can't remember" when their last oil change was. Or when I ask how often they check the engine oil level I just get a blank puzzled or annoyed look. I do know this. . . . most people are way harder on their cars than I am. I see many cars and trucks of the same year as mine and mine has always looked cleaner inside and out and less shop worn.

The son in law now has my old 2010 Colorado Z71 and daughter has our 2009 Saturn Aura. They will let car mats and interior things get dirty for months before cleaning it. The Saturn looked nearly brand new 2 years ago when daughter got it from us and was happy that it looked brand new. Not a mark on it inside or out and the floor mats, carpet and interior were like new because I used additional things like a more protective floor mat. Within two years the car now looks shop worn, with stains here and there, a few door dings from parking wherever, and etc. Daughter tells me she is busy with family things and kids and keeping the car clean is low priority. So. .. I see how other people do the same thing.

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I'm thinking a lot of it (maybe not all) has to do with how attentive an owner is with reasonable OCI of say, 5K to 6K miles plus keeping on top of other maintenance like TB cleaning, air filters, etc. That and driving style, as well as ,yes, highway miles are generally easier on an engine.
Read the tsb. You're close, the cause is due to the piston rings retaining the same design and durability from when this same engine design was used in non direct injection applications. In the direct injection application the rings do not receive the same lubrication and wear more quickly allowing blow by, and should have been made out of tougher stuff.

I think you are right that people who go beyond what is required on oil changes or use their vehicle very lightly may not have this problem occur at a low mileage. However, I take the opposite inference and see this as a bad result, because those people are not getting the defective rings replaced. GM has admitted this component is defective in this application - they are bound to fail sooner or later and cause oil consumption. Perhaps a time bomb for the secondary market owner buying out of warranty.

Personally, If I had one that had not been repaired, I would change the oil only by the OLM, and drive the car hard until it started consuming oil so I could get the repair. If I were buying a used 2010-13, I would insist on buying one that received this repair.

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"Piston Ring Coating

The top compression ring in the new kit has a more robust coating on it that is designed not to wear as quickly as the original coating. Tests indicate that it wears about 4-5 times longer than the original coating.

If the top compression ring is worn, it will allow combustion pressure past it, which causes the oil control rings to be less effective and results in excessive oil consumption.

On 2010-2011 vehicles built before March 2011, there is a strong correlation between leaking high pressure fuel pumps diluting the oil and causing the ring wear. Due to this, check the fuel pump, balance chain, balance chain tensioner and timing chain for the proper part numbers. The updated fuel pump has an enhanced seal.

If these updated parts have not been installed during a previous repair, they should be replaced when the pistons and rings are replaced. Use field action #12313 if the balance chain and/or fuel pump is replaced."


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I'm thinking a lot of it (maybe not all) has to do with how attentive an owner is with reasonable OCI of say, 5K to 6K miles plus keeping on top of other maintenance like TB cleaning, air filters, etc. That and driving style, as well as ,yes, highway miles are generally easier on an engine.

I suspect some claim they do "regular oil changes EVERY 4k or 5K miles" and "baby" their vehicle. And then there are those who buy a used Equinox or Terrain and claim it was "well maintained" previously.

That said, what I do believe is that the new DI engines and drive trains are not as forgiving with lackadaisical maintenance as older engines were. I cringe in the past when daughters have told me they "can't remember" when their last oil change was. Or when I ask how often they check the engine oil level I just get a blank puzzled or annoyed look. I do know this. . . . most people are way harder on their cars than I am. I see many cars and trucks of the same year as mine and mine has always looked cleaner inside and out and less shop worn.

The son in law now has my old 2010 Colorado Z71 and daughter has our 2009 Saturn Aura. They will let car mats and interior things get dirty for months before cleaning it. The Saturn looked nearly brand new 2 years ago when daughter got it from us and was happy that it looked brand new. Not a mark on it inside or out and the floor mats, carpet and interior were like new because I used additional things like a more protective floor mat. Within two years the car now looks shop worn, with stains here and there, a few door dings from parking wherever, and etc. Daughter tells me she is busy with family things and kids and keeping the car clean is low priority. So. .. I see how other people do the same thing.
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Read the tsb. You're close, the cause is due to the piston rings retaining the same design and durability from when this same engine design was used in non direct injection applications. In the direct injection application the rings do not receive the same lubrication and wear more quickly allowing blow by, and should have been made out of tougher stuff.

I think you are right that people who go beyond what is required on oil changes or use their vehicle very lightly may not have this problem occur at a low mileage. However, I take the opposite inference and see this as a bad result, because those people are not getting the defective rings replaced. GM has admitted this component is defective in this application - they are bound to fail sooner or later and cause oil consumption. Perhaps a time bomb for the secondary market owner buying out of warranty.

Oh yeah . . have read the TSB long ago when it came out and also the special one for 2010 models.

Agree. . . . converting to DI put extra stresses on engine parts.

That said, if you search the web, you will find many, many car makers had and continue to have similar problems wehn they went to DI.

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