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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2010, 02:24:46 PM »

I have used clay for years and swear by it.  Only need to do it two or three times a year to get off all of the crud.  When I bought my Terrain I also found a new line of products called Adams Polishes (www.AdamsPolishes.com).  I did the full clay, polish and two coats of wax.  Talk about smooth and clean!!!  This will take a good part of your day that is for sure!

I swear I dont work for them but the product is GREAT.  

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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2010, 05:34:48 PM »

I've tried every product known to man to clean my windshields(not the Terrain---it's too new). There is some kind of ...watermark like stains. Can't see when dry, but shows up when the wipers are on in the rain.
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« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2010, 06:48:50 PM »

I've tried every product known to man to clean my windshields(not the Terrain---it's too new). There is some kind of ...watermark like stains. Can't see when dry, but shows up when the wipers are on in the rain.
Is it the same pattern that the wipers cover?
Could be very minor scratches from the wiper blades that have dirt on them.
They can usually be polished out, but can't remember the procedure.
Good idea to wipe the wipers clean every so often, lots of goop gets stuck on them, bugs, dirt, sand, etc.
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« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2010, 09:00:03 PM »

It's the whole window, blades have nothing to do with it. It's like a chemical stain. Roundish spots. It almost seems to be in the glass itself. All the rubbing doesn't seem to do anything. I was even thinking on getting one of those windshield polishing kits  with very fine abrasives, but I'm chicken to experiment on my cars.  Any volunteers? LOL
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« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2010, 03:49:51 AM »

It's the whole window, blades have nothing to do with it. It's like a chemical stain. Roundish spots. It almost seems to be in the glass itself. All the rubbing doesn't seem to do anything. I was even thinking on getting one of those windshield polishing kits  with very fine abrasives, but I'm chicken to experiment on my cars.  Any volunteers? LOL
Ahhh, I see!
Maybe go to a Speedy or Apple Auto Glass type place and get their opinion.
Maybe it was a batch of tainted glass?
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« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2010, 06:59:18 AM »

Duh!  I never thought of going to a glass specialist. Thanks for the tip gerahead.
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« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2010, 12:31:48 PM »

I worked in the datail shop at a dealer in the early 90's when clay was first hitting the market. It was such a relief to have that stuff. Before that we would have to spend hours buffing out the fallout. It was a big job.

I clay my cars about every 3 months and have had no issues with the paint scratching. The key is to soak the paint with the spray before putting the clay to the paint.

As far as cleaning the glass goes. I have always used the finest grade steel wool. It will not scratch the windows. We used it in the detail shop. Spray the glass cleaner on and wipe the steel wool across the glass and wip off. It works great for me.

Here's a little secret that we used for getting off tar, road grime and road paint from the lower portion of the cars. Lacquer Thinner. That's right. Lacquer Thinner.  I know what you are thinking. Well that will take the paint right off my car. It never has for me and it works wonders and makes a usually tough job easy. The main thing is to not over do it and to apply a good coat of wax afterwards. And of course never apply it to hot paint.
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« Reply #27 on: May 18, 2010, 10:51:42 AM »

also, as a head's up, Meguiar's has a $10 mail-in rebate offer going on through the end of June when you buy two products (one each from the groups listed below) which includes the clay kit:

Buy One of These Eligible Meguiar’s® Products:
• Headlight Restoration Kit (G1900K) • NXT Generation® Tech Wax® 2.0 liquid (G12718)
• Smooth Surface Clay Kit (G1016) • NXT Generation® Tech Wax® 2.0 paste (G12711)

AND One of These Meguiar’s® Products:
• Ultimate Wash & Wax (G17748) • Ultimate Quik Wax (G17516)
• Ultimate Protectant (G14512) • Ultimate Quik Detailer (G14422)
• Ultimate Compound (G17216)

it appears to not have any limitations on which store you purchase from, and Amazon is doing it as well.  link to rebate form below.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/00/00/07/42/72/12/742721250.pdf
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« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2010, 12:02:03 AM »

 I do practically the samething as Scotty...
  Wash...claybar...apply Meguiar's Deep Crystal Polish(do small areas..and don't let it dry..rub in well..and buff to shine as you go)...but then I wax with Meguiars NXT Tech Wax 2.0. After future washes..I use Meguiars Ultimate Quick Detailer spray to restore and deepen the glossy finish(spray..spreadout quickly with one side of a folded towel..flip towel over to buff to shine. It's easy!). I only use 100% cotton towels made in the USA. USA made towels are actually the only true 100% cotton towels on the market. Others are labeled as all cotton..but are not..and can scratch the clearcoat. Cheaper micro fiber can also leave fine scratches.
 I actually do the whole process only in the spring and fall...using the detailer spray all summer. The combo of these polymers and this process offers a deep rich reflective shine that lasts. Meguiar has improved the lasting durability of their products during the last several years. I seem to sound like a Meguiar's salesman..but I am sold...after trying so many others. I had Turtle wax Ice...Zaino..Rejex...Mother's...and others sitting in my cabinet after only using them a couple times because Meguiars just worked better for me.  I finally cleaned out that cabinet and gave the other sealants to my son-in-laws and nephew.
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« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2010, 05:48:23 AM »

Try Bon Ami.  You can use it on glass .. Works great
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« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2010, 04:42:54 AM »

Agree completely on claying! Once you get the hang of it it's very easy but time consuming. The key is to keep the paint well lubricated at all times. I've done our Terrain yet and probably won't until next year.

Also agree on the Bon Ami for glass. I use it on our glass shower doors to remove dried on water spots. Excellent!
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« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2011, 07:56:04 PM »

I finally did the clay bar thing today on my Nox, it took about an hour including the roof and all painted surfaces.  I used the leftovers from the Meguiar's kit I bought last year.  http://www.meguiarsdirect.com/product_detail.asp?T1=MEG+G1016

After washing the car I applied Quick Detailer spray and then used the clay bar and wiped it off with a microfiber towel.  The results were amazing, as they were last year on my Mazda.  Only thing I didn't do was the polish/wax step, since I ran out of daylight (and energy).  I have some of the Meguiar's cleaner wax left over but I don't know if it's enough to do the whole car.  The kit only came with a 4 oz. sample and I used at least half of it on the Mazda.  I'll probably do as much as I can with that and use some other products sitting in the garage to do the rest (like the roof and bumpers and such).

In case anyone's wondering I didn't see any evidence of "rail dust" on the clay.  I know that has been a concern of many people.  I'm in Central Maryland and bought the car in November, so even if it was transported via train they must have covered the metal surfaces with blue plastic.  That said, the Meguiar's clay is pretty mild and non-abrasive.  Based on my results I'd have no qualms about claying a new car even sooner, next time.  It definitely leaves the paint feeling smoother and more water resistant than when it left the factory.
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« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2011, 03:21:47 PM »

I've tried every product known to man to clean my windshields(not the Terrain---it's too new). There is some kind of ...watermark like stains. Can't see when dry, but shows up when the wipers are on in the rain.


This stuff would probably do the trick: http://www.amazon.com/Spot-X-Hard-Water-Stain-Remover/dp/B0006IQJ42
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« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2011, 10:11:50 AM »

My guess would be yes, because it does a great job of getting the scuzz off the body, but I have yet to try it. An old friend of mine is a window cleaner, and his secret is a razor-blade. Personally, I've never had an issue with this as I try to keep my windows fairly clean.


If you have never clayed your windshield, you are missing the cleanest, crystal clear glass you have ever seen....honest....it works!!  Try this test: lightly run your finger tips over the INSIDE  of your windshield and then the OUTSIDE.  You should have a noticable rougher feel outside.  Claying will make it as smoothe as the inside hence crystal clear and easier to keep clean.
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« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2011, 08:53:31 AM »

For those that have never clayed your windshield.....you are missing the clearest glass you will ever see!!  As to claying the car, that actually takes less time than waxing one.  The whole process of washing, claying, waxing.....is a day's work but the claying is the easy part.  Claying will NOT scratch your clear coat unless you have dirty clay with a particle that can scratch like if you drop it and try to use it.  For those that think their car looks as good as it did from the dealer.....that is about the worst a car can look!  They use harsh chemicals, improper method, dirty rags and sponges.  It can look MUCH better!
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« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2011, 09:31:28 AM »

For those that have never clayed your windshield.....you are missing the clearest glass you will ever see!!  As to claying the car, that actually takes less time than waxing one.  The whole process of washing, claying, waxing.....is a day's work but the claying is the easy part.  Claying will NOT scratch your clear coat unless you have dirty clay with a particle that can scratch like if you drop it and try to use it.  For those that think their car looks as good as it did from the dealer.....that is about the worst a car can look!  They use harsh chemicals, improper method, dirty rags and sponges.  It can look MUCH better!

When I bring the car into the dealer for service, I ask them not to wash the car.
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« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2011, 07:23:54 AM »

I'll take a free car wash any time. I wash by hand (Mr Clean Auto Dry car wash system) most of the time, but when I feel lazy (which is more often as I get older) I take it to the car wash. I don't plan to keep the car over 7-8 years so there is absolutely no reason for me to go to such extreams as claying or special wax/sealers etc.. I've never had a rust problem or any kind of paint fading problem or any problem with the paint from only washing and waxing normally.
My cars always look nice and shiny. As a matter of fact I use to enter my Vettes in concourses and winning most shows with nothing but washing and waxing. Back then never even heard of claying.
My Terrain is an every day driver - not a show car. It's going to get nicks and scratches so I'm not going to worry about how perfectly smooth the paint is. Now if it was a Bentley and I only drove it on sunny days - I would clay it (actully I'd have my chauffeur clay it).
I would rather be out riding my Harley then claying a car.
For those that do clay their cars, you have my utmost respect for going above and beyond to make your car as shiny and smooth as humanly possible. I just no longer have the time or energy to do that.
Just my opinion on the other side of the coin - no disrespect for those that like to clay their cars.
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« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2011, 03:46:34 PM »

Claying is about pride of ownership. For those of us who have the time, inclination, and desire for perfection, claying is a necessary step that should not be overlooked to achieve optimum results. It is allot of work. If I'm not mistaken, best results are achieved by first washing as per the administration's previous thread, then clay/lube, wash again, polish, glaze, wax, seal, and a final dusting for show shine. Use your favorite products or combine different manufacturers products. It is personal preference. For me, it's about pride of ownership. Now the interior is a another story...
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« Reply #38 on: August 09, 2011, 06:10:42 AM »

wbassnp007, I don't think pride has anything to do with it. I have lots of pride in my Terrain, my Vettes and all my cars and bikes - probably as much as you, but I still don't clay them. Like I said I don't have time to do all that work, I'd rather be out driving or riding my bike.
I'm not disparaging those that do - when I was a teenager I washed and waxed my cars every week - still do for my Harley. I just consider my Terrain as a family daily driver, a great one for sure, but it's going to get lots of dings and scratches, so I'm not really that concerned about how smooth the paint finish is. That's just me.

If you put your car next to mine and stand 10 feet away, you will not be able to tell the difference. That's my experience from many car shows I've participated in over the years.
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« Reply #39 on: August 09, 2011, 06:25:57 AM »

Try Bon Ami.  You can use it on glass .. Works great
Bon Ami site sujests that you don't use it on auto glass...

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 Not to be confused with the mainstream and widely distributed Bon Ami Powder Cleanser, Bon Ami still makes its 1886 formula, originally sold in a bar, but now in powder form.  The easy-to-shake can contains gentle feldspar abrasive for polishing and soap for cleaning all hard surfaces.  Use to defog windows and mirrors.  This is the only Bon Ami powder that is recommended for use on glass.  Because car makers now use some non-glass materials, Bon Ami no longer recommends the use of Cleaning Powder on auto glass.  NASA even used Cleaning Powder to clean the windows on Skylab.  Many allergists recommend original Bon Ami because the natural ingredients contain no detergent, bleach, perfume, or dye. 
 
   

   

 
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